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New User Need Help
Subject: New User Need Help
Author: imzkhan    Posted: 2006-05-30 09:18:33    Length: 1,392 byte(s)
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hi guys.

Right basically im fed up of widows so i am moving on to linux, i partitioned my disk and am duel booting windows and linux, installation of linux went fine no problems at all. read the installation manual before hand, partitioned a /, /boot, swap and a vfat partitions, enough space for all, for the bootloader i installed GRUB. other then that i installed all the programs available.

when i start my system i have 3 options to choose from, 2 for linux and dos. i know dos takes me to my windows installation. when i click on any of the linus options it goes through all the checks successfully, then it goes to a command line interface and askes me to put a username and password.

it took me a long time to figure out the username yesterday, tried everything like admin, administrator, administration, and every other sequance possible, then i tried root and the admin password and it logged me on. but it still keeps me in the command line interface.

i dont understand is that on the installation documents it says that when you start the machine first time and start linux it should take you to the setup agent, but this isnt happning with me, why?

also if im in the command line interface how can i go to the GUI. i know these are silly quesions but in a first timer, so dnt be harsh with me please

imran R. Khan
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Subject: New User Need Help
Author: TrickyRic    Posted: 2006-05-30 13:56:36    Length: 1,683 byte(s)
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forgive my being simple, but are you certain you installed redhat/fedora? sounds to me like you installed another distribution following docs for redhat/fedora, as redhat/fedora should indeed take you to a graphical setup upon first boot (to do important things like setting up a user account (you should never ever ever login as root)). if the installation itself was graphical then i'm ruling out any possibility of your screen not working with the default xorg configuration at this point.

where did you get your cd's? are you greeted by a "this is redhat/fedora" message during/post boot? or any redhat/fedora logo's during either boot or installation?

if your definately running redhat/fedora though, then next step would be to paste back the output of the following please:

Code:
br /]cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE; cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep WW

...this will output any errors or warnings from your xorg log - xorg being the graphical api used to 'draw stuff'. if no output exists try starting xorg:

Code:
br /]startx

...this will either start x and stick you in a graphical environment (most likely a crappy looking graphical shell, in which case type exit in the cli windows that are on screen until your dumped back in your raw cli environment, or hit ctrl+alt+backspace to kill x) or output some errors to screen. either way report back here with the results and in the latter case, run the above command string again to grab the new errors/warnings from the log.
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Subject: New User Need Help
Author: imzkhan    Posted: 2006-05-30 18:13:11    Length: 809 byte(s)
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guys, i give u permission to call me stupid and laugh at me, right basically i knw what went wrong. TrickyRic thanks to you m8. right basically it is a red hat linux installation. but during the installation i skiped the graphics card installation part, first time linux user what can i say, i didnt see the graphics card i have on the list so i thought that this doesnt make a difference, and like windows i will install it later.

trickyRic  i typed startx and i got a fatal error saying no screen found,

XIO: fatal IO error 104 (connection reset by peer) on X Server ":0.0" after 0 requests (0 known processed with o events remaining)

hw can i install the graphics card without having to reinstall linux from the start.

thanks for your help guys.
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Subject: New User Need Help
Author: TrickyRic    Posted: 2006-05-31 01:56:00    Length: 755 byte(s)
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post back what card you have and your monitors horizonatal and vertical refresh rates (you'll find those values in your monitors documentation, or on the manufacturers site if you don't have such docs) and we'll tell you what to edit in xorg.conf. installing a graphic card is simply a case of editing this file, then we can move onto getting opengl up and running (the opengl glx packages are not provided by default for legal reasons, but these days there's no complications).

for the record though, redhat 9 is old and obsolete, offering no support or updates. later redhat releases don't offer free updates so these days we have fedora - i strongly suggest updating to fedora 4/5 rather than using any version of redhat.
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Subject: New User Need Help
Author: imzkhan    Posted: 2006-05-31 07:07:28    Length: 1,526 byte(s)
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hi.

Yeh ive been reading alot of comments about redhat 9 and how it has been abandoned, no update, no support. so what im gonna do is download fedora project from www.linuxiso.org. but this just means that im going to have to download all the documents and print them.

neway, i have th 17" LG Flatron L1715s monitor refresh rates are: Horizontal Scan Frequency kHz  30 ˜ 83 , Vertical scan frequency (Hz)  56 ˜ 75.


Graphics card: XFX GeForce 6800 GS 256 MB DDR3 XXX Edition,

Graphics Core
256-bit

Memory Interface
256-bit

Memory Bandwidth
32 GB/sec

Vertices Per Second
531 Million

Pixels per Clock (peak)
12

Textures per Pixel
12

RAMDACs
400 MHz

Fill Rate
5.1 Billion Texels/sec.

Memory Date Rate
1000 MHz

Engine Clock  
485MHz (vs standard at 425MHz)

Memory Clock  
1.1GHz (vs standard at 1GHz)

Chipset  
GeForce 6800 GS

Memory  
256 MB

Bus Type  
PCI-E

Memory Type  
DDR3

Memory Bus  
256-bit

Output  
DVI

Highlighted Features
TV Out , HDTV ready , SLI ready  

even though i said i will download fedora, i will still appreciate it if you could tell me hw to fix the problem.

thanks
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Subject: New User Need Help
Author: imzkhan    Posted: 2006-06-01 07:16:37    Length: 1,417 byte(s)
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hi guys.

yeh i fixed the problem i was having with getting into the gui, after inputting the username and password in the CLI i typed: redhat-config-xfree86, which took me to the X Configuration Tool, after about 3 attempts of changing info in there i finally typed startx and hey presto in in the gui side of linux. but everytime i restarted i ws still going to the cli, so reading up on it i typed gedit /etc/inittab, and changed the id:3:initdefault: to id:5:initdefault: . n nw everything is working properly.

but i have a bigger problem lets see who can help me with this one, basically taking TrickyRic's advice i thought i will install fedora, so i downloaded the iso's burnt then to cd, and started installing, checked all the media disc and all passed, so i started installing, BUT after in anaconda started, it recognizes my graphics card, but doesnt recognise my monitor, it takes a few more steps and the screen goes blank and a monitor message comes up saying "out of range 34.5KHz / 79Hz". so i restarted and pressed the F2,F3,F4,F6 options and followed the instruction, but no luck, i tried linux resolution =1029x768, i tried linux noprobe, on this option nothing worked the mouse the keyboard nothing.

so basically i havent got a clue as to hw 2 byepass this, and install fedora, ne sort of help will be appreciated.

Kind regards
Imz
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Subject: New User Need Help
Author: TrickyRic    Posted: 2006-06-01 13:31:06    Length: 994 byte(s)
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you didn't need to rebuild the whole xorg.conf as only very small changes needed to be made using the info you provided (great graphic card btw. i personally have been looking at the 7900 gtx model primarily because of its dual dual-dvi ports and hd encoding, but a little too pricey for my liking - right now i have an oldish 5200 but it does work incredibly well under gnu/linux).

as for fedora, your screens vertical refresh maxes out at 75hz and anaconda is trying to use 79 as default. you should be able to install in verbose mode (little dull looking though, be warned) and again edit xorg.conf post install, or rebuild the whole conf as you did with redhat. alternatively you can always hook up a more standard monitor and then just edit the horizontal and vertical rates in your conf post install for your own monitor to work

for the record you'll find fedora to be very similar to redhat, so the docs you have should still be useful enough in most cases.
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Sold Development System:
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Server System: 1.2GHz AMD Athlon, Socket 462 Apollo KT133 VT82C686
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