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About installing package
Subject: About installing package
Author: satimis    Posted: 2006-09-14 22:09:15    Length: 884 byte(s)
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Hi folks,

Gentoo amd64
Gnome-light 1.24.2

At the beginning I installed Gnome-light for test only.  After testing
I'll run;
Code:
# emerge -C gnome-light && emerge gnome

to install full gnome.

Now I find it a light weight desktop and like it rather than having some
packages installed on the full gnome which I never use.  Now I want to
keep gnome-light and add the packages which I need.

Can I run manually;
Code:
# emerge gedit
# emerge openoffice
# emerge evolution

etc. to install my needed packages?

Which CD/DVD burning packages shall I install on gnome other than K3b,
the front end of cdrecord?

TIA

B.R.
satimis
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Subject: Re: About installing package
Author: TrickyRic    Posted: 2006-09-15 09:38:25    Length: 2,209 byte(s)
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yes, you can install individual packages so long as you have gnome-light too (which provides the core libs for other gnome softwares to run). be sure to use the -pv params first though, to make sure your not going to drag in too many unwanted dependancy files.

gentoo also offer split ebuilds you can use to REALLY cut out the bloat of big softwares. since gnome-light exists i'm pretty sure there's no split ebuilds for gnome, but for a minimalist kde you only need to emerge the kdebase-startkde package. this drags in the core libs and files needed to launch a kde session, together with the startkde command. all other kde packages can then be installed individually. for example, my server only has the following:

Code:
athlon1200 server # equery l kde
[ Searching for package 'kde' in all categories among: ]
 * installed packages
[I--] [  ] kde-base/kde-env-3-r4 (0)
[I--] [  ] kde-base/kde-i18n-3.5.2-r1 (3.5)
[I--] [  ] kde-base/kdebase-data-3.5.2 (3.5)
[I--] [  ] kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves-3.5.2 (3.5)
[I--] [  ] kde-base/kdebase-pam-6 (0)
[I--] [  ] kde-base/kdebase-startkde-3.5.2 (3.5)
[I--] [  ] kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.2-r6 (3.5)
[I--] [  ] kde-base/kdepasswd-3.5.2 (3.5)
[I--] [  ] kde-base/kdeprint-3.5.2 (3.5)
[I--] [  ] kde-base/kdesktop-3.5.2 (3.5)
[I--] [  ] kde-base/kdesu-3.5.0 (3.5)

...needless to say, i'm a HUGE fan of split ebuilds! gentoo is the only distribution at current that allows you to run a true bloat-free kde session, and the performance boost is incredible.

as for cd burning i've never found anything that can compare to k3b. k3b is fast, reliable, and about as intuitive as you can get. as a gnome user though you may want to look into the nautilus-cd-burner package. it adds cd burning functionality to nautilus (the gnome file browser) allowing you to simply drag files to cd, like you would a floppy disk. i've never used this tool myself though so can't comment on it in terms of reliability or feature.
----
Laptop: 2GHz Acer Aspire 9301AWSMi, 1GB DDR2, 17" TFT, 256MB GeForce Go 6100
Sold Development System:
2GHz AMD Opteron 246, Socket 940 Asus K8N-DL
Server System: 1.2GHz AMD Athlon, Socket 462 Apollo KT133 VT82C686
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Subject: Re: About installing package
Author: satimis    Posted: 2006-09-16 07:00:20    Length: 2,221 byte(s)
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Hi TrickyRic link,

Quote
for example, my server only has the following:

Code:
athlon1200 server # equery l kde
[ Searching for package 'kde' in all categories among: ]
 * installed packages
[I--] [  ] kde-base/kde-env-3-r4 (0)
[I--] [  ] kde-base/kde-i18n-3.5.2-r1 (3.5)
[I--] [  ] kde-base/kdebase-data-3.5.2 (3.5)
[I--] [  ] kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves-3.5.2 (3.5)
[I--] [  ] kde-base/kdebase-pam-6 (0)
[I--] [  ] kde-base/kdebase-startkde-3.5.2 (3.5)
[I--] [  ] kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.2-r6 (3.5)
[I--] [  ] kde-base/kdepasswd-3.5.2 (3.5)
[I--] [  ] kde-base/kdeprint-3.5.2 (3.5)
[I--] [  ] kde-base/kdesktop-3.5.2 (3.5)
[I--] [  ] kde-base/kdesu-3.5.0 (3.5)
What do the numbers refer, such as (0), (3.5) etc.

# equery l gnome-light
Code:
[ Searching for package 'gnome-light' in all categories among: ]
 * installed packages
[I--] [  ] gnome-base/gnome-light-2.12.0 (2.0)
Only one package installed.


Others noted with tks.


# emerge -pv openoffice
Code:
These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies
!!! All ebuilds that could satisfy "openoffice" have been masked.
!!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request:
- app-office/openoffice-2.0.4_rc1-r1 (masked by: package.mask, package.mask, ~am d64 keyword)
# 2005/10/24 Simon Stelling <blubb@gentoo.org>
# Don't even try to compile openoffice-2.x, it won't work.

- app-office/openoffice-2.0.3 (masked by: package.mask, -amd64 keyword)

Whether add "openoffice" on /etc/make.conf
USE="............. openoffice"

Then run
# emerge --sync
# emerge openoffice.

TIA


B.R.
satimis

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Subject: Re: About installing package
Author: TrickyRic    Posted: 2006-09-16 12:05:09    Length: 3,698 byte(s)
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Quote
What do the numbers refer, such as (0), (3.5) etc.

...its just version info. the 0's mean those packages are version-independant. for example if i updated and kde 4 packages were emerged, other packages such as pam would still function because they are independant of the actual kde version.

Quote
Only one package installed.

...gnome-light is a single package. equery looks through your installed package list and outputs those that contain the specified term. since all kde packages are prefixed with "kde", thats all i used in my example. usually to determine which packages you have installed belonging to the same group (such as gnome), you'd parse the group name instead. ie:

Code:
equery l gnome-base/

to see the difference, here's an output of kde-base from my server.

Code:
athlon1200 server # equery l kde-base/
[ Searching for all packages in 'kde-base' among: ]
 * installed packages
[I--] [  ] kde-base/arts-3.5.2-r1 (3.5)
[I--] [  ] kde-base/kate-3.5.2 (3.5)
[I--] [  ] kde-base/kcalc-3.5.2 (3.5)
[I--] [  ] kde-base/kcheckpass-3.5.0 (3.5)
[I--] [  ] kde-base/kcminit-3.5.0 (3.5)
[I--] [  ] kde-base/kcontrol-3.5.2 (3.5)
[I--] [  ] kde-base/kde-env-3-r4 (0)
[I--] [  ] kde-base/kde-i18n-3.5.2-r1 (3.5)
[I--] [  ] kde-base/kdebase-data-3.5.2 (3.5)
[I--] [  ] kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves-3.5.2 (3.5)
[I--] [  ] kde-base/kdebase-pam-6 (0)
[I--] [  ] kde-base/kdebase-startkde-3.5.2 (3.5)
[I--] [  ] kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.2-r6 (3.5)
[I--] [  ] kde-base/kdepasswd-3.5.2 (3.5)
[I--] [  ] kde-base/kdeprint-3.5.2 (3.5)
[I--] [  ] kde-base/kdesktop-3.5.2 (3.5)
[I--] [  ] kde-base/kdesu-3.5.0 (3.5)
[I--] [  ] kde-base/kdialog-3.5.0 (3.5)
[I--] [  ] kde-base/kdm-3.5.2-r1 (3.5)
[I--] [  ] kde-base/kfind-3.5.2 (3.5)
[I--] [  ] kde-base/kghostview-3.5.2 (3.5)
[I--] [  ] kde-base/khelpcenter-3.5.2 (3.5)
[I--] [  ] kde-base/khotkeys-3.5.1 (3.5)
[I--] [  ] kde-base/kicker-3.5.2 (3.5)
[I--] [  ] kde-base/klipper-3.5.2 (3.5)
[I--] [  ] kde-base/kmenuedit-3.5.2 (3.5)
[I--] [  ] kde-base/knetattach-3.5.1 (3.5)
[I--] [  ] kde-base/konqueror-3.5.2 (3.5)
[I--] [  ] kde-base/konsole-3.5.2-r1 (3.5)
[I--] [  ] kde-base/kpdf-3.5.2 (3.5)
[I--] [  ] kde-base/kpersonalizer-3.5.2 (3.5)
[I--] [  ] kde-base/kreadconfig-3.5.0 (3.5)
[I--] [  ] kde-base/ksmserver-3.5.2 (3.5)
[I--] [  ] kde-base/ksplashml-3.5.2 (3.5)
[I--] [  ] kde-base/kwin-3.5.2-r2 (3.5)
[I--] [  ] kde-base/libkonq-3.5.2 (3.5)
[I--] [  ] kde-base/lisa-3.5.2 (3.5)

Quote
Whether add "openoffice" on /etc/make.conf
USE="............. openoffice"

Then run
# emerge --sync
# emerge openoffice.

...openoffice doesn't compile correctly on amd64 systems, and is thus masked with ~amd64. thankfully gentoo provide a pre-compiled 32bit binary as well, and since amd64 is backward compatible it works a treat.

Code:
emerge -pv openoffice-bin
----
Laptop: 2GHz Acer Aspire 9301AWSMi, 1GB DDR2, 17" TFT, 256MB GeForce Go 6100
Sold Development System:
2GHz AMD Opteron 246, Socket 940 Asus K8N-DL
Server System: 1.2GHz AMD Athlon, Socket 462 Apollo KT133 VT82C686
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Subject: Re: About installing package
Author: satimis    Posted: 2006-09-16 18:48:04    Length: 526 byte(s)
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Hi TrickyRic,

Quote
Code:
equery l gnome-base/

to see the difference, here's an output of kde-base from my server.

# equery l gnome-bsae/
Code:
[ Searching for all packages in 'gnome-bsae' among: ]
 * installed packages

Nothing found.

Others noted with tks.


B.R.
satimis
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Subject: Re: About installing package
Author: TrickyRic    Posted: 2006-09-17 04:16:49    Length: 225 byte(s)
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you made a typo Wink

Quote
gnome-bsae

should be gnome-base.
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Laptop: 2GHz Acer Aspire 9301AWSMi, 1GB DDR2, 17" TFT, 256MB GeForce Go 6100
Sold Development System:
2GHz AMD Opteron 246, Socket 940 Asus K8N-DL
Server System: 1.2GHz AMD Athlon, Socket 462 Apollo KT133 VT82C686
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Subject: Re: About installing package
Author: satimis    Posted: 2006-09-17 09:53:04    Length: 2,260 byte(s)
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Hi TrickyRic,

Quote
should be gnome-base.

Oh sorry, that was my typing mistake.  Tried again;

# equery l gnome-base
Quote
[ Searching for package 'gnome-base' in all categories among: ]
 * installed packages

Same printout.

Ah the trick is here "/"
 # equery l gnome-base/
Code:
[ Searching for all packages in 'gnome-base' among: ]
 * installed packages
[I--] [  ] gnome-base/control-center-2.14.2 (2)
[I--] [  ] gnome-base/eel-2.14.1 (2)
[I--] [  ] gnome-base/gail-1.8.11 (0)
[I--] [  ] gnome-base/gconf-2.14.0 (2)
[I--] [  ] gnome-base/gdm-2.14.9-r1 (0)
[I--] [  ] gnome-base/gnome-common-2.12.0 (3)
[I--] [  ] gnome-base/gnome-desktop-2.14.2 (0)
[I--] [  ] gnome-base/gnome-keyring-0.4.9 (0)
[I--] [  ] gnome-base/gnome-light-2.12.0 (2.0)
[I--] [  ] gnome-base/gnome-menus-2.14.0 (0)
[I--] [  ] gnome-base/gnome-mime-data-2.4.2 (0)
[I--] [  ] gnome-base/gnome-mount-0.4-r4 (0)
[I--] [  ] gnome-base/gnome-panel-2.14.2 (0)
[I--] [  ] gnome-base/gnome-session-2.14.2 (0)
[I--] [  ] gnome-base/gnome-vfs-2.14.2-r1 (2)
[I--] [  ] gnome-base/gnome-volume-manager-1.5.15-r2 (0)
[I--] [  ] gnome-base/libbonobo-2.14.0 (0)
[I--] [  ] gnome-base/libbonoboui-2.14.0 (0)
[I--] [  ] gnome-base/libglade-2.5.1 (2.0)
[I--] [  ] gnome-base/libgnome-2.14.1 (0)
[I--] [  ] gnome-base/libgnomecanvas-2.14.0 (0)
[I--] [  ] gnome-base/libgnomeprint-2.12.1 (2.2)
[I--] [  ] gnome-base/libgnomeprintui-2.12.1 (2.2)
[I--] [  ] gnome-base/libgnomeui-2.14.1 (0)
[I--] [  ] gnome-base/libgtop-2.14.1 (2)
[I--] [  ] gnome-base/librsvg-2.14.4 (2)
[I--] [  ] gnome-base/nautilus-2.14.1 (0)
[I--] [  ] gnome-base/orbit-2.14.0 (2)

Also I have run "emerge --sync"

Tks

B.R.
satimis


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Subject: Re: About installing package
Author: TrickyRic    Posted: 2006-09-18 03:05:46    Length: 248 byte(s)
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emerge-sync simply syncs your portage tree with public repositories. you should do this every time you intend on updating your system, else portage won't know of any updates, but other than that you don't need to run it for any other use.
----
Laptop: 2GHz Acer Aspire 9301AWSMi, 1GB DDR2, 17" TFT, 256MB GeForce Go 6100
Sold Development System:
2GHz AMD Opteron 246, Socket 940 Asus K8N-DL
Server System: 1.2GHz AMD Athlon, Socket 462 Apollo KT133 VT82C686
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Subject: Re: About installing package
Author: satimis    Posted: 2006-09-18 18:22:59    Length: 490 byte(s)
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emerge-sync simply syncs your portage tree with public repositories. you should do this every time you intend on updating your system, else portage won't know of any updates, but other than that you don't need to run it for any other use.
Noted with tks.

satimis
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