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How to install Linux applications?
Subject: How to install Linux applications?
Author: James Xiaolu Jin    Posted: 2005-04-22 07:06:53    Length: 2,142 byte(s)
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I am new to Linux so please be gentile;-). Recently installed Redhat Linux 9
on a relatively old laptop computer (Toshiba Satellite 2100CDT). The
installation completed without any big problems. But now I have two
"annoying" problems.

1. Network configuration:

Couldn't find any driver for a Linksys external USB-type wireless network
adapter  WUSB54G/80211.g so I gave up on this USB adapter. But then couldn't
even get my 3COM 3C589D PCMCIA 2.0/2.1 network card to work either which is
directly connected to one of the wired ports of my Linksys WRT54G router
which is in turn connected to my cable modem.

2. Now this one is really my problem. Without connection to the Internet
from the linux laptop because of the above network configureation problem, I
used a desktop running Windoze XP Pro to download some of the latest verions
of applications for Linux i386 such as Firefox 1.0.3, and OpenOfficeORG 2.0,
etc. but I am not sure how I can install these applications with Linux. Here
are what I did (using Firefox 1.0.3 as an example):

A) With the desktop PC running Windoze XP, downloaded
firefox-1.0.3.installer.tar.gz
B) With the destkop PC running Windoze XP, ran WINZIP to extract the above
downloaded tar.gz file, and got: the following extracted files
* config.ini
* firefox-installer
* firefox-installer-bin
* install.ini
* license.txt
* watermark.png
* subdirectory xpi which includes 6 files with file extension .xpi
C) With the desktop PC running Windoze XP, burned the above files onto a
CD-R (with the same file and directory structure)
D) With the laptop running Redhat Linux 9, from command line (terminal) and
using the CD-R media, tried 'executing' the above file firefox-installer or
firefox-installer-bin (a script or a executable?), but couldn't install the
application, at all.

What went wrong with my download and/or installation process/procedure?
Thanks!

James

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Subject: How to install Linux applications?
Author: General Schvantzkoph    Posted: 2005-04-22 08:19:04    Length: 3,206 byte(s)
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On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 09:06:53 -0400, James Xiaolu Jin wrote:

QUOTE
I am new to Linux so please be gentile;-). Recently installed Redhat Linux 9
on a relatively old laptop computer (Toshiba Satellite 2100CDT). The
installation completed without any big problems. But now I have two
"annoying" problems.

1. Network configuration:

Couldn't find any driver for a Linksys external USB-type wireless network
adapter  WUSB54G/80211.g so I gave up on this USB adapter. But then couldn't
even get my 3COM 3C589D PCMCIA 2.0/2.1 network card to work either which is
directly connected to one of the wired ports of my Linksys WRT54G router
which is in turn connected to my cable modem.

2. Now this one is really my problem. Without connection to the Internet
from the linux laptop because of the above network configureation problem, I
used a desktop running Windoze XP Pro to download some of the latest verions
of applications for Linux i386 such as Firefox 1.0.3, and OpenOfficeORG 2.0,
etc. but I am not sure how I can install these applications with Linux. Here
are what I did (using Firefox 1.0.3 as an example):

A) With the desktop PC running Windoze XP, downloaded
firefox-1.0.3.installer.tar.gz
B) With the destkop PC running Windoze XP, ran WINZIP to extract the above
downloaded tar.gz file, and got: the following extracted files
* config.ini
* firefox-installer
* firefox-installer-bin
* install.ini
* license.txt
* watermark.png
* subdirectory xpi which includes 6 files with file extension .xpi
C) With the desktop PC running Windoze XP, burned the above files onto a
CD-R (with the same file and directory structure)
D) With the laptop running Redhat Linux 9, from command line (terminal) and
using the CD-R media, tried 'executing' the above file firefox-installer or
firefox-installer-bin (a script or a executable?), but couldn't install the
application, at all.

What went wrong with my download and/or installation process/procedure?
Thanks!

James

If you just did the install the first thing you should do is to get rid of
Redhat 9 and install Fedora Core 3. Redhat 9 is very old and it's no
longer supported. It's modern descendant is Fedora Core 3. FC3 is much
more likely to have drivers for your devices. If it doesn't have them then
chances are they don't exist. RH9 is several years old so it's not going
to have drivers for any device that came out since then. Even if the
device was current when RH9 was shipped there is a good chance that it
might not be supported. It takes longer for Linux to get a driver then it
does for Windows because most manufacturers don't bother to do a Linux
driver themselves so there can be a lag of several months to a year before
a new device gets a Linux driver.

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Subject: How to install Linux applications?
Author: Beowulf    Posted: 2005-04-22 08:27:27    Length: 489 byte(s)
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General Schvantzkoph wrote:
...
QUOTE
If you just did the install the first thing you should do is to get rid of
Redhat 9 and install Fedora Core 3. ....

I am using FC3 and it did not recognize my wireless NIC, on a quest to find
a compatible wireless PCI nic card

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Subject: How to install Linux applications?
Author: tim wunder    Posted: 2005-04-22 09:07:06    Length: 3,940 byte(s)
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On 4/22/2005 9:06 AM, I believe that James Xiaolu Jin wrote:
QUOTE
I am new to Linux so please be gentile;-). Recently installed Redhat Linux 9
on a relatively old laptop computer (Toshiba Satellite 2100CDT). The
installation completed without any big problems. But now I have two
"annoying" problems.

1. Network configuration:

Couldn't find any driver for a Linksys external USB-type wireless network
adapter  WUSB54G/80211.g so I gave up on this USB adapter. But then couldn't
even get my 3COM 3C589D PCMCIA 2.0/2.1 network card to work either which is
directly connected to one of the wired ports of my Linksys WRT54G router
which is in turn connected to my cable modem.


Not surprising, USB support has undergone major revision since RHL 9.
But the 3C589 should work... Care to mention the errors your getting and
the steps you took to try to enable the NIC?

QUOTE
2. Now this one is really my problem. Without connection to the Internet
from the linux laptop because of the above network configureation problem, I
used a desktop running Windoze XP Pro to download some of the latest verions
of applications for Linux i386 such as Firefox 1.0.3, and OpenOfficeORG 2.0,
etc. but I am not sure how I can install these applications with Linux. Here
are what I did (using Firefox 1.0.3 as an example):

A) With the desktop PC running Windoze XP, downloaded
firefox-1.0.3.installer.tar.gz
B) With the destkop PC running Windoze XP, ran WINZIP to extract the above
downloaded tar.gz file, and got: the following extracted files
* config.ini
* firefox-installer
* firefox-installer-bin
* install.ini
* license.txt
* watermark.png
* subdirectory xpi which includes 6 files with file extension .xpi
C) With the desktop PC running Windoze XP, burned the above files onto a
CD-R (with the same file and directory structure)

burn the tar.gz file to CD, copy that file to your linux system and
untar it there. All file permissions assigned to the files and
directories of the tar ball are lost by virtue of you extracting them to
the Windows filesystem, which knows nothing about Unix permissions.

QUOTE
D) With the laptop running Redhat Linux 9, from command line (terminal) and
using the CD-R media, tried 'executing' the above file firefox-installer or
firefox-installer-bin (a script or a executable?), but couldn't install the
application, at all.

What went wrong with my download and/or installation process/procedure?
Thanks!

James

I doubt that RHL 9 enables files on the mounted CD-R to be executable.
Burn the tar.gz file to CDR, copy it to the linux filesystem on the
laptop and untar it there (tar -zxvf). Then try executing the
firefox-installer-bin file. Remember that the current directory is not
in the normal user's $PATH, so you need to explicitly tell linux where
the file is. By addin './' to the front of the filename to be executed,
you will be telling linux to find the file in the current directory. So
you'll wanna do something like:
$ ./firefox-installer-bin

HTH,
Tim


HTH,
Tim

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Subject: How to install Linux applications?
Author: Michael Thomas    Posted: 2005-04-22 10:53:36    Length: 3,492 byte(s)
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On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 09:06:53 -0400, "James Xiaolu Jin"
[jamesxjin@rogers.com] wrote:

QUOTE
I am new to Linux so please be gentile;-). Recently installed Redhat Linux 9
on a relatively old laptop computer (Toshiba Satellite 2100CDT). The
installation completed without any big problems. But now I have two
"annoying" problems.

1. Network configuration:

Couldn't find any driver for a Linksys external USB-type wireless network
adapter  WUSB54G/80211.g so I gave up on this USB adapter. But then couldn't
even get my 3COM 3C589D PCMCIA 2.0/2.1 network card to work either which is
directly connected to one of the wired ports of my Linksys WRT54G router
which is in turn connected to my cable modem.


Install Fedora Core 3 instead.  That device is supported natively in
the kernel using the prism54 driver.

QUOTE
2. Now this one is really my problem. Without connection to the Internet
from the linux laptop because of the above network configureation problem, I
used a desktop running Windoze XP Pro to download some of the latest verions
of applications for Linux i386 such as Firefox 1.0.3, and OpenOfficeORG 2.0,
etc. but I am not sure how I can install these applications with Linux. Here
are what I did (using Firefox 1.0.3 as an example):

A) With the desktop PC running Windoze XP, downloaded
firefox-1.0.3.installer.tar.gz
B) With the destkop PC running Windoze XP, ran WINZIP to extract the above
downloaded tar.gz file, and got: the following extracted files
* config.ini
* firefox-installer
* firefox-installer-bin
* install.ini
* license.txt
* watermark.png
* subdirectory xpi which includes 6 files with file extension .xpi
C) With the desktop PC running Windoze XP, burned the above files onto a
CD-R (with the same file and directory structure)
D) With the laptop running Redhat Linux 9, from command line (terminal) and
using the CD-R media, tried 'executing' the above file firefox-installer or
firefox-installer-bin (a script or a executable?), but couldn't install the
application, at all.

What went wrong with my download and/or installation process/procedure?
Thanks!

James


Get your network going and learn how to use yum or apt to install
packages.

[mt@nitro ~]$ sudo apt-get install kernel
Password:
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Package kernel is a virtual package provided by:
  kernel-smp#2.6.11-1.14_FC3 2.6.11-1.14_FC3
  kernel-smp#2.6.10-1.770_FC3 2.6.10-1.770_FC3
  kernel#2.6.11-1.14_FC3 2.6.11-1.14_FC3 [Installed]
  kernel#2.6.10-1.770_FC3 2.6.10-1.770_FC3
  kernel-smp#2.6.9-1.667 2.6.9-1.667
  kernel#2.6.9-1.667 2.6.9-1.667
You should explicitly select one to install.
E: Package kernel is a virtual package with multiple good providers.

--
MT

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Subject: How to install Linux applications?
Author: James Garvin    Posted: 2005-04-22 11:02:44    Length: 519 byte(s)
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James Xiaolu Jin wrote:
QUOTE

What went wrong with my download and/or installation process/procedure?
Thanks!

You could have just said I need help installing Firefox, this is what
happened.

Anyway at the command line type ./firefox-installer

That should get you running.

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Subject: How to install Linux applications?
Author: Mr Gumby    Posted: 2005-04-22 17:40:21    Length: 716 byte(s)
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James Xiaolu Jin wrote:

QUOTE
I am new to Linux so please be gentile;-). Recently installed Redhat Linux
9 on a relatively old laptop computer (Toshiba Satellite 2100CDT). The
.........

why is it so many people are getting their hands on these
old Red Hat 9 copies?  Wouldn't it actually be difficult
to find these? Maybe people look in the back of those
"Red Hat Linux Bible" books and find the Red Hat
install disks that came with the book years ago?
Mark

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Subject: How to install Linux applications?
Author: James    Posted: 2005-04-22 18:12:18    Length: 981 byte(s)
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Ok, maybe it's time for me to install something like CentOS 4 (which is
about the same as the latest Redhat Enterprise Linux).

Thanks,

"Mr Gumby" [none@nonenadaspam.com] wrote in message
news:FXfae.193$Yc.72@trnddc06...
QUOTE
James Xiaolu Jin wrote:

I am new to Linux so please be gentile;-). Recently installed Redhat
Linux
9 on a relatively old laptop computer (Toshiba Satellite 2100CDT). The
.........

why is it so many people are getting their hands on these
old Red Hat 9 copies?  Wouldn't it actually be difficult
to find these? Maybe people look in the back of those
"Red Hat Linux Bible" books and find the Red Hat
install disks that came with the book years ago?
Mark


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Subject: How to install Linux applications?
Author: James Xiaolu Jin    Posted: 2005-04-23 06:14:30    Length: 2,711 byte(s)
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Thanks for all the replies.

I guess I should forget about this old old Redhat Linux 9. I am right now
downloading Fedora Core 4 Test 2 (the second test release of Fedora Core 4)
which must be the latest (and the greatest;-)

James

"James Xiaolu Jin" [jamesxjin@rogers.com] wrote in message
news:F9OdnV7Nf7Fwa_XfRVn-tQ@rogers.com...
QUOTE
I am new to Linux so please be gentile;-). Recently installed Redhat Linux
9 on a relatively old laptop computer (Toshiba Satellite 2100CDT). The
installation completed without any big problems. But now I have two
"annoying" problems.

1. Network configuration:

Couldn't find any driver for a Linksys external USB-type wireless network
adapter  WUSB54G/80211.g so I gave up on this USB adapter. But then
couldn't even get my 3COM 3C589D PCMCIA 2.0/2.1 network card to work
either which is directly connected to one of the wired ports of my Linksys
WRT54G router which is in turn connected to my cable modem.

2. Now this one is really my problem. Without connection to the Internet
from the linux laptop because of the above network configureation problem,
I used a desktop running Windoze XP Pro to download some of the latest
verions of applications for Linux i386 such as Firefox 1.0.3, and
OpenOfficeORG 2.0, etc. but I am not sure how I can install these
applications with Linux. Here are what I did (using Firefox 1.0.3 as an
example):

A) With the desktop PC running Windoze XP, downloaded
firefox-1.0.3.installer.tar.gz
B) With the destkop PC running Windoze XP, ran WINZIP to extract the above
downloaded tar.gz file, and got: the following extracted files
* config.ini
* firefox-installer
* firefox-installer-bin
* install.ini
* license.txt
* watermark.png
* subdirectory xpi which includes 6 files with file extension .xpi
C) With the desktop PC running Windoze XP, burned the above files onto a
CD-R (with the same file and directory structure)
D) With the laptop running Redhat Linux 9, from command line (terminal)
and using the CD-R media, tried 'executing' the above file
firefox-installer or firefox-installer-bin (a script or a executable?),
but couldn't install the application, at all.

What went wrong with my download and/or installation process/procedure?
Thanks!

James


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Subject: How to install Linux applications?
Author: Tommy Reynolds    Posted: 2005-04-23 08:59:13    Length: 781 byte(s)
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On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 08:14:30 -0400, James Xiaolu Jin wrote:

QUOTE
I guess I should forget about this old old Redhat Linux 9. I am right now
downloading Fedora Core 4 Test 2 (the second test release of Fedora Core 4)
which must be the latest (and the greatest;-)

Oh, gosh no!  FC4T2 is _not_ for newbies!  It is not a released product!

While we do need testers for the upcoming FC4 release, noobs should still
install FC3 and make sure it is updated with the latest changes.

James, I think you have over-compensated ;-)

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Subject: How to install Linux applications?
Author: James Xiaolu Jin    Posted: 2005-04-23 12:41:41    Length: 1,104 byte(s)
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Yes I understand that a test release is for a tester, but I guess I am
willing to go all the way to the latest (and the greatest, hopefully;-)

Thanks,
James

"Tommy Reynolds" [TommyReynolds@yahoo.com] wrote in message
news:pan.2005.04.23.14.59.13.488948@yahoo.com...
QUOTE
On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 08:14:30 -0400, James Xiaolu Jin wrote:

I guess I should forget about this old old Redhat Linux 9. I am right now
downloading Fedora Core 4 Test 2 (the second test release of Fedora Core
4)
which must be the latest (and the greatest;-)

Oh, gosh no!  FC4T2 is _not_ for newbies!  It is not a released product!

While we do need testers for the upcoming FC4 release, noobs should still
install FC3 and make sure it is updated with the latest changes.

James, I think you have over-compensated ;-)


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Subject: How to install Linux applications?
Author: ge0rge    Posted: 2005-04-23 13:21:38    Length: 1,104 byte(s)
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James Xiaolu Jin wrote:
QUOTE
Yes I understand that a test release is for a tester, but I guess I am
willing to go all the way to the latest (and the greatest, hopefully;-)

Fine. It simply is not the best way to learn about an OS.
If you go for the latest stable version then at least when you get stuck
the probability is that you are doing something wrong and not the other
way round where the system may be misbehaving although you may be doing
everything right. You'd have to be an expert or at least quite familiar
with the OS to recognize problems in the latter category.

--
Unix is like a toll road on which you have to stop every 50 feet to
pay another nickel.  But hey!  You only feel 5 cents poorer each time.
              -- Larry Wall in [1992Aug13.192357.15731@netlabs.com]

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Subject: How to install Linux applications?
Author: Kev    Posted: 2005-04-24 18:53:15    Length: 1,005 byte(s)
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ge0rge [ge0rge@privacy.net] wrote in news:3cvlioF683schU1@individual.net:

QUOTE
Yes I understand that a test release is for a tester, but I guess I am
willing to go all the way to the latest (and the greatest, hopefully;-)

Fine. It simply is not the best way to learn about an OS.
If you go for the latest stable version then at least when you get stuck
the probability is that you are doing something wrong and not the other
way round where the system may be misbehaving although you may be doing
everything right. You'd have to be an expert or at least quite familiar
with the OS to recognize problems in the latter category.

Any idea on when FC4 is supposed to be released? Maybe its not too far off
and there is no rush to use the tests.

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Subject: How to install Linux applications?
Author: Tommy Reynolds    Posted: 2005-04-24 22:34:39    Length: 533 byte(s)
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On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 00:53:15 +0000, Kev wrote:

QUOTE
Any idea on when FC4 is supposed to be released? Maybe its not too far
off and there is no rush to use the tests.

http://fedora.redhat.com/participate/schedule/

Cheers

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Subject: How to install Linux applications?
Author: Kawosa    Posted: 2005-04-25 21:36:49    Length: 1,499 byte(s)
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Kev [die_spammers_die@pht.zzz] wrote in
news:Xns9642B61A762BAkevsmail@216.168.3.44:

QUOTE
ge0rge [ge0rge@privacy.net] wrote in
news:3cvlioF683schU1@individual.net:

Yes I understand that a test release is for a tester, but I guess I
am willing to go all the way to the latest (and the greatest,
hopefully;-)

Fine. It simply is not the best way to learn about an OS.
If you go for the latest stable version then at least when you get
stuck the probability is that you are doing something wrong and not
the other way round where the system may be misbehaving although you
may be doing everything right. You'd have to be an expert or at least
quite familiar with the OS to recognize problems in the latter
category.

Any idea on when FC4 is supposed to be released? Maybe its not too far
off and there is no rush to use the tests.

I just downloaded the full bore FC4-T2 on bootable DVD. It went so smooth
for me, for the first time I have hope that semi-free Linux is truly
going to make it to the big lights. It won't be long now!

So far I have installed it 2 different systems without a glitch. Haven't
really tested much though as I am sure there are lots of bugs.

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