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Alright, I basically want to know if there is any method/program out there that boots one OS through another, meaning the first one runs the program, then ends, then the other one starts. Is this even possible? My backstory is that I want to run knoppix on the school computers, with all my settings and files etc, and I swear to do no evil, but the bios is obviously locked not to run bootable CD's, or floppies without a password. I was thinking if there was some way to run a boot loader in windows, without shutting down the computer, that that would be the best way. Any help would be nice.
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Thank you, though this isn't quite what I'm looking for. VM is A) not free, and runs linux in windows, which isn't ideal. Also, your other solution isn't possible either, because the computers are locked and they also have Deep Freeze, which resets everything on shutdown, so rebooting the computer isn't an option. I am looking for something that stops execution of windows and boots linux, all while the machine still runs, rather than using windows to run linux. Does anyone know of anything that does this, or any methods that I could do this myself?
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i can be pretty much certain the machines in question will be locked down enough to prevent this. generally the systems in schools and colleges are networked around ldap servers (ie active directory or fedora directory, etc). this allows administrators to lock down user privileges globally. without the permissions to install software or edit system files (boot.ini in this case) you don't really have any options other than to reset the bios password which requires shorting out its battery - not sure your tutors would be too happy about that .
it would certainly be worth asking your administrator if he could enable you to boot from cd on at least one specific machine though, as technically there's no reason why you cannot use free open source softwares (unless the educational licensing they use from microsoft states no alternative softwares can be used, which wouldn't surprise me to be honest). at the end of the day no educational establishment should prevent you from learning any software, for any reason.
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...the first one runs the program, then ends, then the other one starts. A program named loadlin did that very thing. That's how I started using Linux. I would boot to Windows and run loadlin to get to Linux.
Unfortunately, I haven't heard of loadlin in years, and I think it depended on WinX's real mode to work. Which means you are probably out of luck. Here's a note in Wikipedia about it.
Here's another suggestion that isn't exactly what you are after: Cygwin. Cygwin gives you most to the Linux tools while running under Windows. This has the added advantage of allowing you simultaneously run a real bash shell while running real Windows apps. They also support X apps, though I never installed X.
no educational establishment should prevent you from learning any software, for any reason. I second that.
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Thank you, loadlin does exactly like what I want... so it's at least possible, and now I have something else to search for. As for Cygwin, thanks for offering it, and I may look into it if I run out of options, but it still seems to be more of an emulator than a bootloader.
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Actually, as an after thought, couldn't you just load the bootloader into memory as if the bios did it, and it would then load in the linux kernel overtop of windows in memory?
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There is a Linux distribution (andLinux), which doesn't require to reboot your PC. But you need to install some files and I don't know if you can do this without permissions.
As I know you can't find a distribution, which doesn't require the installation or rebooting. So if you can't install andLinux, I think there isn't solution for this problem.
http://wiki.gp2x.org/wiki/AndLinux
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thanks for the reply, and once again, it doesn't seem like exactly what I was looking for... but I'll consider it. Any one else?
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Xen http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/Research/SRG/netos/xen/
Qemu http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/
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Thanks, but once again, I'm not looking for an emulator or virtual machine, just something that boots linux from windows, then ends windows.
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just something that boots linux from windows, then ends windows.
But, that's what virtual machines do.
Today's processors are designed in such a way that they can run only one operating system at a time. Even in SMP systems, the same instance of the kernel runs on the two processors.
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I'm running CoLinux on my box, what i usually do is to boot to Windows, and start my CoLinux and continue to work in Linux environment (leave windows running behind), you would required an image (i'm using Ubuntu)...
not sure whether it helps, just trying to contribute to this community =)
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Thanks for the contribution. I've looked into CoLinux before... and it still isn't ideal... but maybe I'm being too picky...
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Be as picky as you want. Change distributions whenever you want to try something different. Choice is such a good thing.
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